when do you submit to google ?

[chromate]

It's quite easy to get your site crawled very quickly just using the "addurl" daily. A temporary ranking will normally follow very shortly after that (1 to 2 weeks) but the final ranking seems to only be awarded a few weeks after that. Then of course the all important PR and backlink update could take even longer.

In my experience the whole process does take about 4 to 6 weeks. I think the PR is the important thing, because whilst you have a PR of 0 people are reluctant to link to your site. So I would say, submit as soon as possible just to get that first bit of PR so you don't have any hold up in getting more backlinks.

[Mike]

I don't think people will be reluctant to link to you, as in many circumstances people don't know about SEO.

[chromate]

I have experienced a lot of reluctance. I've had a number of possible link partners actually say that they don't link to PR0 sites. Thankfully now, after that last update, I actually have some PR. Getting backlinks is now so much easier. I'm targeting a relatively competitive field though, so the high PR sites are obviously aware of the SEO aspects.

[s2kinteg916]

i managed to get spidered in 1 or 2 days and i already recieved hits from google in about 3 days

[Mike]

Originally posted by chromate
I have experienced a lot of reluctance. I've had a number of possible link partners actually say that they don't link to PR0 sites. Thankfully now, after that last update, I actually have some PR. Getting backlinks is now so much easier. I'm targeting a relatively competitive field though, so the high PR sites are obviously aware of the SEO aspects.

Most of the time, people don't reply to my link requests

Really I think it depends on what topic it is. If it's a webmaster site then I'd have thought that they'd be aware of SEO aspects. Another topic, maybe not. Then again, it might not work like that.

I think looking at the structure of the site may help you decide weather they would exchange links.

[michael_gersitz]

I just make enough sites that I can link them together.... Nobody wants to link anybody anymore....

[lo0ol]

Originally posted by bugsy
3-4 weeks???? I've gotten a new site completely spidered in less than a week. I think google is now constantly "freshening" up their content.

Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me?

I was also thinking along the same lines. I've seen new pages spidered in less than a week aswell, even a couple of days.