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Bobson
10-19-2003, 04:25 AM
Are there any other programs better or just as good as adsense that pays you just for clicks? Just for the cliks
incka
10-19-2003, 06:44 AM
There is some similar ones that I've seen, but I forgot what they were...
Chris
10-19-2003, 06:50 AM
Searchfeed and RevenuePilot

http://www.websitepublisher.net/article/searchfeed-revenuepilot/

Both pay per click in a similar fashion (not exactly the same though).
KeithMcL
10-21-2003, 02:58 PM
Chris, have you used either of the above? If so, do they perform anywhere near as good as Adsense?
Chris
10-21-2003, 03:54 PM
I've used both, searchfeed is better.

They don't perform as well, but they perform, and in a different way.

See http://www.online-literature.com/shakespeare/

Check out the "essay" link in the "Related Links" section. That is how I implement SearchFeed.

It is a text link, and I get to define the keyword. Those two features Adsense cannot do.

The text link takes up no real space, so its all additional advertising. I've been pulling in $20 a day from it. Not bad considering it is a tiny text link.

The link gets clicked on over 2000 times a day, and I get around 400 clicks on search results (the ones I actually get paid for).
KeithMcL
10-26-2003, 09:15 AM
Wow, some nice stats there. I clicked the link you mention and I like the way the URL remains part of your site, http://www.online-literature.com/SearchResults.html?keyword=essays

How come the search returned no results, "No Results Found". Have you made some changes or something?
Chris
10-26-2003, 12:07 PM
The search returns results for me.... maybe it has to do with you being outside the US.
chromate
10-26-2003, 12:35 PM
Nah, I'm in the UK and I get the results.
Mike
10-26-2003, 02:22 PM
I'm in the UK and I don't :S
Chris
10-26-2003, 02:32 PM
its javascript driven, what browser are you using?
chromate
10-26-2003, 02:33 PM
weird :)
Mike
10-26-2003, 02:37 PM
I'm using IE6.
chromate
10-27-2003, 02:40 AM
IE5.5
KeithMcL
10-27-2003, 09:00 AM
IE6 on XP here.
Mike
11-02-2003, 12:14 PM
Did you find out the problem Chris?

Also, do you know what the average PPC is for a normalish keyword?

Thanks,
Mike
chromate
11-02-2003, 12:59 PM
Probably about $0.10 to $0.30 ?? If there's any such thing as a normalish keyword :)
Chris
11-02-2003, 01:02 PM
No, I don't know what the issue is.

I'd guess the average would probably be 8 or 7 cents.
chromate
11-02-2003, 01:14 PM
Really? That low? On overture at least, I don't recall seeing a bid for less than 10 cents?

Actually, maybe there's a set minimum bid of $0.10 on overture?
Mike
11-02-2003, 02:06 PM
It does seem pretty low...

How about a high keyword, such as web hosting? Surely nearer the $1 mark?

Thanks,
Mike
Chris
11-02-2003, 02:48 PM
You can check for yourself by searching at searchfeed.com
chromate
11-03-2003, 04:50 AM
From my own experiences, my adsence earnings seem to concur more with Overture. But then, I may just have a good batch of ads.

I would say for webhosting in particular, the average would be much closer to $1.
Mike
11-03-2003, 12:37 PM
Didn't know you could check the PPC prices with not being a member...

Anyway, I did and "web hosting" came up at about $0.64. Not as good as adsense, but still quite impressive.
chromate
11-03-2003, 01:22 PM
top web hosting one on overture is like $18 or something :eek:
Mike
11-03-2003, 01:41 PM
Shame they don't offer a PPC program for publishers then:)
Chris
11-03-2003, 02:25 PM
Searchfeed is a smaller company, their rates won't be as good.

What is good about them though is that their program is different from other programs.

You host the search results on your site and you can link to them pretty much any way you want (which allows you to do in-context linking that can't be done with Google.)
chromate
11-04-2003, 03:00 AM
How old are they? Are they growing rapidly? Can we expect their rates to increase accordingly?
Mike
11-04-2003, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Chris
host the search results on your site and you can link to them pretty much any way you want (which allows you to do in-context linking that can't be done with Google.)

So say if you were writing a review on something, you could include one of the advertisers in the text and it would be ok?

For example, say if websitepublisher was with them, and I had an article on webmaster sites, would this be ok?

"There are many webmaster sites out there, our favorite being Website Publisher (http://www.websitepublisher.net)..."

Mike
KeithMcL
11-06-2003, 07:20 PM
Well I've justed applied to Search Feed and am waiting for my application to be approved.

I plan on adding single word text links like Chris has to the bottom of the articles on my site which will be about all aspects of web design. I plan on adding a section about web hosting, so hopefully (fingers crossed) the links will perform well for me.

Fingers crossed I get approved too :)
Chris
11-06-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Mike
So say if you were writing a review on something, you could include one of the advertisers in the text and it would be ok?

For example, say if websitepublisher was with them, and I had an article on webmaster sites, would this be ok?

"There are many webmaster sites out there, our favorite being Website Publisher (http://www.websitepublisher.net)..."

Mike

No.

You can't link to an advertiser directly -- you can link to search result sets only.
Mike
11-07-2003, 09:15 AM
Ah ok. Thanks.
chromate
11-07-2003, 02:27 PM
KeithMcL, Did you get approved? I did. Unfortunately, their site seems to be going SO slow that I can't do a thing with it at the moment :(
michael_gersitz
11-07-2003, 03:13 PM
Sounds like a great program....

ABout how many advertisers do they have....

Would they have results for alot of niche sites?
Chris
11-07-2003, 03:15 PM
Seems to me that both programs get feeds from Looksmart -- so they have quite a bit of advertisers.
Chris
11-07-2003, 03:16 PM
by the way, if you're reading this thread and haven't read the official review on the two programs I mentioned:

http://www.websitepublisher.net/article/searchfeed-revenuepilot/
KeithMcL
11-07-2003, 06:49 PM
chromate, yes I did. I found the site slow too, but figured it was just because it was on a secure site (https).

I'm going to look at adding the links to the article footers tomorrow.
ozgression
11-07-2003, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by Chris
Searchfeed is a smaller company, their rates won't be as good.

What is good about them though is that their program is different from other programs.

You host the search results on your site and you can link to them pretty much any way you want (which allows you to do in-context linking that can't be done with Google.)

You can also do this with RevenuePilot.
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john190
11-08-2003, 02:58 AM
I've seen lots of good ppc search engine affiliate programs on the web where you can earn over 70% of their revenue. But I've never seen nother as good as Google Adsense yet.

I like Adsense alot!!
chromate
11-08-2003, 04:27 AM
John, shhhh you're not supposed to talk about it ;) heh
john190
11-08-2003, 10:59 AM
Chromate Thanks! for reminding me!

I've changed it now

Thanks!
sussmal
11-08-2003, 11:59 AM
Chris, thanks for the link. Your article offers a great intro!
lo0ol
11-08-2003, 01:57 PM
One difficult thing to get accustomed to with SearchFeed and RevenuePilot is that you don't get paid per click- it's actually more like paid per every other click. Once the user clicks on your link you need them to click on the search results, which is usually harder to do. For example, aspen said he gets 2000 clicks but only 400 are paid clicks.

What we really need is a CPC program that allows you to drop their ad straight into your page (like mentioned above).
Bobson
11-09-2003, 12:18 AM
I hear google is Jealous, would they agree for you to have their adsense ads running on your site and have other similar type PPC ads running also?, even on the same page?

I want to have revenue pilot on the same page where my adsense banner is, would that be a problem for google?
lo0ol
11-09-2003, 12:22 AM
Google has said they don't like other text links that look like theirs on your page. This kinda covers a large area, and it seems to be open for interpretation. I think if you just had the link you might be fine, but if you had link then a short description (resembling like what AdSense has), you might be in violation.
Chris
11-09-2003, 07:18 AM
I think what they mean is you can't have adsense ads on the same page as other ppc ads.

Meaning keep adsense off the search result pages.

The text linking pointing to the search result pages are just text links, not ads, you don't get paid for them. As such I don't think they matter.
KeithMcL
11-09-2003, 05:31 PM
Well I'm trying the Searchfeed results page now and I'm getting "No Results Found". I rechecked your searchfeed Chris and the results are being returned now.

Strange. The funny thing is, the related keywords part is working for me.
chromate
11-10-2003, 05:26 AM
Keith, I've been getting exactly the same thing. I gave up. It wouldn't even work when selecting the words and clicking the preview button. So it's not my implementation.

Let me know if it suddenly works for you.
KeithMcL
11-10-2003, 04:49 PM
Well I did have it setup slightly wierd (for want of a better word). I had the page running locally (using phpdev) but had my connection to the web running. technically it should have still worked. I haven't tried it again and probably won't until I set it up online.
chromate
11-11-2003, 02:48 AM
Nothing weird about my setup. Still couldn't get it to work. Pretty sure it's a bug on their part.
KeithMcL
11-12-2003, 02:07 PM
Have you tried contacing them to see? I will, if it continues to happen when I set mine up online.
chromate
11-12-2003, 03:16 PM
I haven't contacted them. With my low level of traffic as it is now, I wont make that much from it anyway. So I'm not that bothered.
KeithMcL
11-14-2003, 05:44 PM
:D

Still it's always nice to have things working :)
chromate
11-15-2003, 05:52 AM
Oh, I didn't mean that I was using it on my site in a broken state. I just decided that it wasn't worth playing with to get it to work :)
john190
11-22-2003, 10:43 PM
The only programs that I can think of are ppc search engines, but then they are not quite as good as Google Adsense.

There's also one or two programs out there that pay about 10c per clickthru.

One is CasinoRewards! and I think there is one or two affiliate programs that pay that within ClixGalore's affiliate network aswell.