Making Money

[thebillionaire]

Hi, I’m new to this making money thing online, I have always wanted to join the google adsense affiliate program due to so many positive reviews, but I am not sure if they actually pay for I have also read that some affiliate programs don't pay, is google adsense one of them? :confused:

Another thing of what I was wondering was that since most of you guys are already making money from google adsense, I would be nice if you could tell me about how many hit, or unique hits I need to actually make a good amount of money with google adsense.

Another thing I would like to know is that which type of google banner is the best?

[incka]

Google pays.

Don't measure hits, measure uniques and page views.

I think 60,000 monthly pageviews minimum, 80,000 recommended, 100,000 max before putting ads on.

[DaveM]

LOL @ this 100,000 max before putting ads on

[flyingpylon]

Define "a good amount of money".

[Mike]

I think it really depends on what your site topic is. Like you could probably get away with a couple of hundred uniques a day on a high paying topic, but on a low paying one it might have to be a few thousand.

[incka]

I meant for adnetworks. It didn't include google adsense sites.

[thebillionaire]

aren't hits and page views the same thing?

[Mike]

Page view is a single page viewed.

Hit is when something is downloaded, like an image or something. So if you had 20 images on one page, you'd get at least 20 hits for someone visiting it.

I think that's right anyway:)

[chromate]

hits = any requests made to the server (ie, for each image etc)
pageview = each page requested from the server
unique = each unique visitor to your site.

As mike says, it depends on your topic. Some topics will pay $15 per click. Others will only pay $0.04.

The higher paying topics tend to be more competitive.

The lower paying one's aren't always so competitive, but obviously you need a far greater amount of traffic to make it worth it.

Use wordtracker.com to estimate the number of times a search term is searched for.

Click through rates tend to be, for most people, in the 1% - 3% range on average with adsense. So, with a large degree of likely error, you can work out roughly what you could be earning depending on the traffic you expect or at least work out a worst case scenario.

That's basically it in a nutshell. For a better idea, read the series of articles on this site, "How to build a successful website".

[thebillionaire]

Has any one ever made thousands of dollars with google adsence.

P.S Thanks Mike and chromate.

[Mike]

I'm sure quite a few people on here have. Sadly, I'm not included :(

[incka]

I've made almost $1000 on adsense, Chris I would expect has made tens of thousands on it.

Chromate - Wordtracker is not reliable on its own. Use www.digitalpoint.com/tools/suggestion

[thebillionaire]

who is chris and what is his site?

incka your site doesn't have any google adsense advertisement.

[incka]

My site? I have loads of sites!

Chris owns this site, and loads of other sites.

[thebillionaire]

Originally posted by incka
My site? I have loads of sites!

Chris owns this site, and loads of other sites.

what is this site, whats the link to "this" site.

[incka]

Well this site is the site you are posting on at the moment.

[thebillionaire]

So your telling me that is your site.

[incka]

No, www.websitepublisher.net is owned by Chris Beasley.

[thebillionaire]

Does Chris even reply?

[incka]

Yes, he is the second highest poster here I think. He just isn't here now.

[thebillionaire]

So have you ever tried google adsense? how mich did you make with how many hits?

[Chris]

Google Adsense is variable.

For a few months after it launched with my drug site I was pulling in about $40 CPM with it. (then Google dropped canadian pharmacy ads).

On other sites it makes much much less.

One thing I like about adsense is using it as a bottom ad. It doesn't seem to hurt CTR that much and it performs light years better than ad network provided below the scroll ads. For instance the adsense ad on my survival site makes $20 a day or so ($2 CPM approx) and it is below the scroll.

[incka]

What CPM are you getting now?

[Chris]

$10 -- with the small sample size since adsense implemented channels. I assume you meant for the drug site.

[incka]

Yes. Still quite nice though. I'm going away from using adsense as a primary revenue source for a site, it's too unreliable.

[galacnet]

Yes that I agree... Adsense is too unreliable and some new system they made has actually cut my earnings by more than 90%!! ( God and I have the stats to prove it..... )

But, they do pay on time and the cheques are good. Other than to earn a stable income or at least maintain your sites are not advisable

[incka]

Chris - How have your wilderness survival rates changed sinse you changed the ads to wide skys?

[Chris]

I actually haven't noticed a change -- but Google has been fluctuating heavily lately so who knows.

[incka]

So you might change them back to tribal?

Would adsense ads outproform search feed on your literature site? I've seen alot of sites getting essay ads up by including a footer that says 'Disclaimer: This site does not provide essays.'...

[Chris]

I tried adsense on my literature site. Poor performer.

[Paypopup]

Hi,

How about www.clicksor.com and www.paypopup.com? Have you tried Clicksor?

[Mike]

I take it your from paypopup?

[Paypopup]

Yes, I am from Paypopup, and I would like to hear feedback from publishers privately, so please email me at support@paypopup.com for Paypopup and Clicksor suggestions.

Thanks

[thebillionaire]

paypop's link doesn't work.

[Mike]

works for me