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Mike
03-06-2004, 03:22 PM
Hi all,

Months ago incka posted a thread named something like "Help me 5 fold my traffic in a week". I think he got from about 100 uniques a day to 2000 in around four months.

Anyway, I need something similar to happen. At the moment I'm averaging around 220 uniques a day (gone up a lot this month), but it's not increasing.

So does anyone have any tips? I have submitted to all the major search engines, and a little bit of my traffic is coming from them. Also I've exchanged links with sites on the same topic.

The site is msn-emotions.net

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks a lot,
Mike
incka
03-06-2004, 04:05 PM
I have done one thing for you. Let it remain secret between us, as if everyone knows PR can not be gained. I think Chris also knows, as some of his sites seem to use it.

Other ways: www.TheFreeSite.com
Mike
03-07-2004, 02:14 AM
Thanks, I'll look into thefreesite...
sitepointRefugee
03-20-2004, 06:47 AM
Months ago incka posted a thread named something like "Help me 5 fold my traffic in a week". I think he got from about 100 unique a day to 2000 in around four months.
I just read all posts in the thread; http://www.websitepublisher.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145. One thing I found is multiple submissions to zeal.

q1. Can you list your site more than once in zeal?

q2. If you can do that, does it help to get more traffic from zeal?
Jaffro
03-20-2004, 09:10 AM
Yea mike, thefreesite is really very good if you can get listed it does help.

I recently got into Zeal, well signed up - whats peoples problem with the quiz? i passed first time only got one wrong and that was a stupid mistake too! Your site's already in there mike so no need to worry about that.

Has anyone tried getting into dmoz for msn emotions sites? Ive tried but got no where!

sitepointrefugee, Does zeal still link into msn search like was said in that thread? Its really bugged me that msn search is paid only.
Mike
03-20-2004, 10:44 AM
Yeh I sent thefreesite an email the other day Jaff, so hoping they will link to me in a bit. Did they reply to you? If so, how long did they take?

About Dmoz. I tried ages ago to get in, but like you I got nowhere! Don't think there is a good editor there. I tried to be it, but got rejected.

Mike
Jaffro
03-20-2004, 12:25 PM
Damn that sucks. The current editor is no good at all, surely another editor would be worthwhile!

Ermm, thefreesite got back to me in about 24hours i think, very quick response. although i done mine on a sunday so it might just have been that they update on a weekly basis.
incka
03-20-2004, 12:42 PM
I've become friends with the owner of the free site... He is going to list my MSN Emotions site next update...

I applied to be the DMOZ editor of that category but got turned down as they said I was doing it for commercial purposes...
incka
03-20-2004, 12:44 PM
I think the next trend is going to be buddy icons site... I have a domain, Dave M has a domain and I think Mike is considering making one...
chromate
03-20-2004, 12:54 PM
It's never going to be that profitable though. If you're doing it for the money, surely putting your effort into a more lucrative industry would be better?
Mike
03-20-2004, 01:19 PM
Yeah I've decided against the buddy icons site. At the moment from 150 uniques a day on my msn emotions site, i'm making $5-$10 a day. It's more competitive with the buddy icons, so I don't see the point.

In a few weeks I'm making a site that google pays well for. It's competitive, but I'll see what I can do.
incka
03-20-2004, 01:19 PM
MSN Emotions IS profitable...

I'm earning $25 a day from only 500 visitors from Smiley Central affiliate program (I'm writing an article about it for website publisher, want to contribute? PM me)...

I'm also earing about another $8 from google on it, but can't be too sure because I haven't added the channels yet.
snoopers
03-20-2004, 01:21 PM
Well he could use the PR built off his buddy site to help launch other sites...

And buddy icon sites don't make much money per visitor, but they successful ones get TONS of visitors.
Mike
03-20-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by incka
MSN Emotions IS profitable...

I'm earning $25 a day from only 500 visitors from Smiley Central affiliate program (I'm writing an article about it for website publisher, want to contribute? PM me)...

I'm also earing about another $8 from google on it, but can't be too sure because I haven't added the channels yet.

But most of your money comes from games2go, which gets over 2000 uniques a day i believe. I suppose it would be possible to make $50 a day off it.
incka
03-20-2004, 01:48 PM
I use SUBIDs on azoogle, it comes from MSN, only a small bit comes from games2go, less than $5 a month, cause fastclick fill almost all my inventory...
Mike
03-20-2004, 01:56 PM
Oh, what are your stats like for your emotions site then?
incka
03-20-2004, 02:10 PM
500 visitors a day, I told you... $25 a day
chromate
03-20-2004, 02:49 PM
Isn't the $25 a day from your Free Cursors, Free Smileys sites though?
incka
03-20-2004, 03:17 PM
no, they are not in google ranking yet. They are not earning that much. I'm using SUBIDs, the $25 a day IS from msn emotions, and about another $1 from other sites using it.
Jaffro
03-20-2004, 03:20 PM
whats SUBIDs?
Mike
03-20-2004, 03:23 PM
I think its the ID for each site, so you can track how ads are performing?
incka
03-20-2004, 03:35 PM
I do it per ad, not per site. IE: MSNTOP, MSNRECTANGLE, MSNRIGHT
Jaffro
03-20-2004, 04:02 PM
how do you do that then? im not sure i fully understand
incka
03-20-2004, 04:08 PM
are you a member of azoogle ads?
Jaffro
03-20-2004, 04:20 PM
nope, well not yet
incka
03-21-2004, 02:51 AM
I'll help you over MSN, my MSN is sean@incka.com
Mike
03-21-2004, 06:43 AM
(more like get you to use his referral code jaff;))
incka
03-21-2004, 06:51 AM
Just because I was born in 1924... :D
Mike
03-21-2004, 07:01 AM
And just because I'm the younger model, born in 1981 :D
incka
03-21-2004, 08:09 AM
Dave M is ancient compared with us... He was born in the year 573...
michael_gersitz
03-21-2004, 08:57 AM
Having sites with similar content would help you right now... Build mini sites linking to MSN-Emotions... I have seen sites that have MSN profile picutures... How about one of those?
incka
03-21-2004, 10:01 AM
We are all inter-linking... That should help us...
Jaffro
03-24-2004, 03:11 PM
Yea there must've been a recent update because i think im on page 2 now! yay :D I really dont get why mike's site isn't listed! Perhaps you should think about putting in a bit more content on your index mike?

I think im getting links from msn searches as well - ive just got back from a trip away so i need to check everything out! :)